PBase Statistics page returns

[larsjohnsson]

I also have zero hits on December 4.
I suspect PBase statistics will never again work properly.

Ron
http://www.ronwrightphotography.com

Mine does not work either. It's really sad and the only happy person here is fishit. Soon he will say that nobody visited Pbase on the 4th, and the statistic worked that day also.........

[larsjohnsson]

Hi folks!
For three days of statistics page was blocked.
Today has begun to function again...
But on 4 December marks zero hits!
What happens, someone has lost data???
You can check too?
I have big doubts on the proper functioning of this system.
I also have serious doubts on the recovery of old data when the statistics were zero....
What do you think?
Thanks!
Paolo
http://www.paolopeggi.com

"Big doubts" Of course it's not working. And the old stats will never be integrated with the new......

[ssim]

Mike my information was secondary to another event I had sent a email about to Emily.
The issue of all the current repairs to make the site work correctly was a priority and being worked on daily.
slug has admitted it was a weakness in his post. You have to trust he is doing everything he can as quickly as he can.

I've know alcoholics and drug users that have acknowledged that they have problem. The key is what are they doing about it. I actually thought it was a step forward when Slug actually acknowledged his shortcomings in the communications area but nothing has changed. It's like the guy standing up and saying he is an alcoholic and then saying "hand me the bottle". You can defend Slug and Emily all you want but in reality they are letting the community down. This is no longer a little pet project. This is a business, with real customers spending real money. Yet they continue to seemingly function like it is a weekend college job. If you are a business then grow up and act like one. You may trust that he is doing everything that he can but the vacuum of information tells me otherwise. He can tell us he is sleeping on his office floor, which is unfortunate but this is a business with real customers spending real money. They don't care about his personal life, they want what they signed on for.

A update would be nice and it takes little time.
It is the after time remarks and questions that people want answered that takes time.
Time I would think most wisely spent on repairing and improving PBase.
It is what it is, lambasting slug's efforts do not do anything to improve the situation, imo.

I've worked on major IT projects and can tell you that to write a simple communication to your customers on an issue like this would take me minutes. What I believe that Pbase needs is to hire a project manager that will work with them to set realistic deadlines for project components. This person would also communicate to the outside world and keep the programmers feet to the fire in making sure that the milestones are met. Being a business owner is a tough job, I don't believe anyone is disputing that. In those same projects that I have worked on realistic deadlines are not missed very often and certainly not missed by the kind of timelines we are being given. I've seen some pretty major components be rewritten by one person in a fraction of the time that we have not had the statistics working.

You say it does no good to lambaste Slug and in reality you are probably correct as history tells us that he doesn't care one way or the other. Surely there is someone in there that cares enough to take this communication task on. What would want the user community do, send him roses. This is a business with real customers with real expectations.

Everyone pays the exact same amount per MB of used space. Sure some will pay more than 23.00 per year, I know I do. It is not the amount that is important in this. If you base your business model off of selling widgets for 1.00 then the customer expects to get them in a timely fashion for 1.00. If he buys a case of them he is paying 12.00. There is no one on here any more important than anyone else simply because of the volume of money they spend. We all have the same expectations.

I could say with great certainty that if Slug worked for a company that was accountable to a board he would be long gone. We have no choice but to try and influence his behavior on the forum and support emails. Most of us do this knowing full well that things are probably not going to change. The thing that I have a hard time grasping is that the other people that work at Pbase must not feel secure enough to confront Slug about what this is doing overall to the company. I get the feeling that Slug is hiring idiots for programmers if it is taking this long to solve the stats issue. As noted before I've seen some programmers write full components that are far more complex than this in fairly short order.

So this is what I think should happen corporately at Pbase. As the owner Slug would have to still be the grand master but he has to get out of the day to day stuff, he is hurting the growth of this company. I think that he is a great visionary and that is where his skill set should be exploited upon.Bring in a GM that has the sole responsibility for who will work there. Make realistic timelines and communicate this to the user community. If a programmer misses those dates provide a timely reason why and republish a date that will be met. Communication is the key to expanding the user base and as long as we continue to see the kind of stuff we are who in their right mind is going to sign on as a customer. The Pbase team has to be concerned about this. I've worked at companies where the business got too much and too complicated for the original owner to really keep things running properly. They were man enough to realize this and brought in people with the proper expertise to allow the company to continue to grow and prosper. It was a win win for everyone, the employees were happy (particularly at profit sharing time) and the customers were happy. A quiet customer is normally a happy one. I would love to see a few threads of accolades for the Pbase team but that isn't about to happen any time soon unless changes are made.

I don't view this as taking shots at Slug. I say it is taking exception with a situation. If he is the master of that, then perhaps that is where it should lie. This company has the makings of greatness but in order to attain that one has to have the vision and leadership to enact it. I think they have the vision, they are lacking the people that can make it happen.

[hmetal]

I also have zero hits on December 4.
I suspect PBase statistics will never again work properly.

Ron
http://www.ronwrightphotography.com

Mine does not work either. It's really sad and the only happy person here is fishit. Soon he will say that nobody visited Pbase on the 4th, and the statistic worked that day also.........

Ditto for Dec 4th, as seen below. Pretty odd for a set of galleries that typically sees between 200-400 views/day. Come on guys, it's only PHP and SQL. SQL is not that complex, even with joins and conditional SELECT statements..

[fishit]

You say it does no good to lambaste Slug and in reality you are probably correct as history tells us that he doesn't care one way or the other. Surely there is someone in there that cares enough to take this communication task on. What would want the user community do, send him roses. This is a business with real customers with real expectations.

And you think slug and Emily do not know this?
What I have said all along is you can piss and moan in this forum all you want and it will do nothing to solve the problem.
You yourself make all my points in your lengthy diatribe about what you think PBase should do as a business.
If you and everyone else feel the need to vent and it makes you feel better, please have at it, see where it gets you.

Enjoy your venting, there is no need for me to respond, it will do no good.

[ronsc]

Enjoy your venting, there is no need for me to respond, it will do no good.

Then why do you keep responding?

[larsjohnsson]

Enjoy your venting, there is no need for me to respond, it will do no good.

Then why do you keep responding?

Yes why responding every day then

[aviles]

The December 4 error seems to have been corrected...

[bracciodiferro]

The December 4 error seems to have been corrected...

I see that we have reliable Statistics Page....

Paolo

[larsjohnsson]

The December 4 error seems to have been corrected...

I see that we have reliable Statistics Page....

Paolo

Yes, first my 4th December got corrected to a rather low number of hits. Then it change again to a much higher number

[jaapblom]

The 4th december number is 2007, much higher then my average. It seems to be far from corresponding with the numbers of individual images (max. 3 for the most viewed image).
Great shot!!!
By the way: Leaving fishit where he is!

[ssim]

Enjoy your venting, there is no need for me to respond, it will do no good.

Don't let the door hit you on the way out.....

[jaapblom]

The stats of dec 4th were/are not very reliable in my opinion. Please help me to check this in a simple way.
Please click the url below and let me know you did (how many times). Maybe leave a comment.
It 's just a test.
http://www.pbase.com/jaapblom/image/111271908

I will let you the total number of hits that will be given by the stats.
Have a good day.

[waltercarels]

Please can some responsible of Pbase remove the statiscs. The counter is not changed since the September crash and is giving old and wrong information to my visitors !

[eharel]

If it wasn't sad, I would have said that someone has been making fun of all of us for the past few months