PBase Statistics page returns

[gb_eh]

After the meltdown two months ago I decided that PBase no longer deserved my business, and I've taken it elsewhere (still have 6 months here). I still check back into the forums while i continue to migrate my images off this site to see if they've done anything to restore customer service, and I see nothing has changed. Customer requests for information still lacking, great way to run a business. Anyway I still have several statics tracking methods running against my account here, so i thought i'd look to see how the compare to each other. Google and StatCounter.com results are fairly close to one another, however pbase seems to be inflated. One has to ask how accurate is this new statics program everyone waited so long for? Just food for thought.

Results based on Page loads:
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Nov 27th:
- Pbase = 1048
- StatCount = 42
- Google analytics = 37

Period of Nov27 to Dec 3rd:
- Pbase = 2535
- StatCount = 387
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For me 27/11 - 3/12

Pbase 6610
Statcounter 6512

I think you don't placed statcounter on each subgallety

Ok that makes perfect sense now thanks for correcting my misunderstanding with statcounter usage. Although i'd be very very surprised if i'd take an average 150+ page views per day that pbase is reporting. Since i've emptied some of my migrated galleries (more popular hollywood celebrity galleries are empty now). The high page views on the 27th are likely due to the Google bots indexing the pages. thanks again for the information...Glen


www.glenallenphotography.com

[fishit]

After the meltdown two months ago I decided that PBase no longer deserved my business, and I've taken it elsewhere (still have 6 months here).

Hope you enjoy the abyss of Zenfolio in search rankings. But it is not a fair comparison to PBase.
You should have used Smugmug as your back up site. Glad you like the new place, thanks for stopping back.

[hmetal]

Count me among them. As far as I'm concerned, you can take your "mature content" and walk.

Awwww muffin. Welcome to whinge zone.

[hmetal]

Hope you enjoy the abyss of Zenfolio in search rankings. But it is not a fair comparison to PBase.
You should have used Smugmug as your back up site. Glad you like the new place, thanks for stopping back.

To add my $.02 on Zenfolio, I agree about Zenfolio not being a fair comparison. I only use Zenfolio for prints. It is linked from all my galleries on other sites and from our commercial website also.

However, Flickr in my humble opinion is kicking PBase's proverbial butt at least presently. If PBase can pull the rabbit out of their hats and fix the problems, plus bring their feature set up to par with what was promised, they would once again be tops.

To all the fanboys who say PBase can do no wrong and doesn't have an obligation to provide quality of service to its paying members: I was once one of you. But I have broadened my horizons and found that there is life, very much life, beyond PBase.

To the "Morality Police": I couldn't give a hang what you think about mature content as you are obviously not our target audience. PBase should strive to accommodate ALL of its paying members. I don't see why they are cow-towing to puritans in the United States. Nudity is only an issue with the Americans who hide sex in the backroom like a dirty secret, which is a very small subset of US citizens. FACT: Sex is not dirty, and it's not bad mmkay? Take your judgments elsewhere as your opinions do not affect what I shoot, present nor future. Besides, it is VERY simple to create such a content filtering system and, whether you like it or not, PBase (by Emily's own words) has promised it. If you don't like our "smut," you don't have to look at it. Hopefully PBase can help you out and you won't have to look at our "smut."

And, I forgot to address an earlier comment.. Yes, I understand very well that the content rating/filtering system is of lower priority than statistics and any other *existing* feature that are currently broken. If you assumed I thought otherwise, then you shouldn't perhaps not assume.

[macchap]

no cure no pay

[jaapblom]

Mayday...Mayday...
Going down...! Going down....!
Stats are going down.

[caeneno]

Wake-up Pbase !!!
What are you doing ???

[fishit]

To all the fanboys who say PBase can do no wrong and doesn't have an obligation to provide quality of service to its paying members: I was once one of you. But I have broadened my horizons and found that there is life, very much life, beyond PBase.

To the "Morality Police": I couldn't give a hang what you think about mature content as you are obviously not our target audience. PBase should strive to accommodate ALL of its paying members. I don't see why they are cow-towing to puritans in the United States..

No one has said there are not still problems to be fixed, but bashing PBase administration and whining here insistently does not help resolve the problem.
PBase is worth the $23.00 a year I pay, a much better value and compared to Flickr the community is more mature and less chaotic, PBase indexes better too.
The filtering I think has to do with advertisers internationally they do not want nude pictures showing up with their ads next to them, other site use other methods.
I have said it before you can come to this forum and piss and moan and yell all you want at PBase and it only allows you to vent to the other whiners about PBase.
It is clear slug knows there are problems and is trying to fix them as quickly as possible without losing any of the 10 years of information and pictures.

But if you want to vent go forth, it is doing nothing to help solve the problems .... just saying ...

[gb_eh]

After the meltdown two months ago I decided that PBase no longer deserved my business, and I've taken it elsewhere (still have 6 months here).

Hope you enjoy the abyss of Zenfolio in search rankings. But it is not a fair comparison to PBase.
You should have used Smugmug as your back up site. Glad you like the new place, thanks for stopping back.

Like all service providers different people have different requirements from them. Search engine rankings, were low on my priority list. Stability and speed, and respect for my business were higher. Prior to the failure a few months ago I found that pbase was slow to respond, as did some of my visitors (again others my not have had this problem). I do not rely on Google to share my work with friends, family etc... but when i do send someone to my galleries i want them up and working and responding promptly. A high search ranking is of little use if the person clicks on the google search result and the image wont load, or takes too long so they move on. I thank you for looking out for my best interest in recommending "smugmug" as a backup site, but again personal preference came into play here. Besides if a system is stable and works as advertised with proper backups and a sound recovery plan, I shouldn't need a backup site. I'm glad you have an backup plan / exit strategy for your images if/when pbase should crash again. I'm not a professional photographer relying on any of these site to sell my work, if i were i would take the time to create my own stand alone site with a few accounts on these photo share sites to promote my work, advertise etc..

I enjoyed the community here at pbase, and still visit the galleries of some of my friends that i've made over the years, and they too have continued to stop by my new site, so all is good so far at my new provider. Time will tell if the service level remains as i have experienced it so far. One big plus is their customer service level, they respond quickly to support emails, and are active on their forums and facebook site. More than i can say for pbase who dont seem to understand the word "customer" or "communication".

[gb_eh]

To all the fanboys who say PBase can do no wrong and doesn't have an obligation to provide quality of service to its paying members: I was once one of you. But I have broadened my horizons and found that there is life, very much life, beyond PBase.

To the "Morality Police": I couldn't give a hang what you think about mature content as you are obviously not our target audience. PBase should strive to accommodate ALL of its paying members. I don't see why they are cow-towing to puritans in the United States..

No one has said there are not still problems to be fixed, but bashing PBase administration and whining here insistently does not help resolve the problem.
PBase is worth the $23.00 a year I pay, a much better value and compared to Flickr the community is more mature and less chaotic, PBase indexes better too.
The filtering I think has to do with advertisers internationally they do not want nude pictures showing up with their ads next to them, other site use other methods.
I have said it before you can come to this forum and piss and moan and yell all you want at PBase and it only allows you to vent to the other whiners about PBase.
It is clear slug knows there are problems and is trying to fix them as quickly as possible without losing any of the 10 years of information and pictures.

But if you want to vent go forth, it is doing nothing to help solve the problems .... just saying ...

I agree that wining does help resolve system issues. It might resolve lack of communication issues. I am a frustrated paying customer who has decided to move on, and i'll now do that with my winning too... I think pbase has a great community within it, i truly hope smug resolves the outstanding issues before that is lost.

Good luck to everyone who remains or moves on... Glen

[gb_eh]

To all the fanboys who say PBase can do no wrong and doesn't have an obligation to provide quality of service to its paying members: I was once one of you. But I have broadened my horizons and found that there is life, very much life, beyond PBase.

To the "Morality Police": I couldn't give a hang what you think about mature content as you are obviously not our target audience. PBase should strive to accommodate ALL of its paying members. I don't see why they are cow-towing to puritans in the United States..

No one has said there are not still problems to be fixed, but bashing PBase administration and whining here insistently does not help resolve the problem.
PBase is worth the $23.00 a year I pay, a much better value and compared to Flickr the community is more mature and less chaotic, PBase indexes better too.
The filtering I think has to do with advertisers internationally they do not want nude pictures showing up with their ads next to them, other site use other methods.
I have said it before you can come to this forum and piss and moan and yell all you want at PBase and it only allows you to vent to the other whiners about PBase.
It is clear slug knows there are problems and is trying to fix them as quickly as possible without losing any of the 10 years of information and pictures.

But if you want to vent go forth, it is doing nothing to help solve the problems .... just saying ...

I agree that wining does help resolve system issues. It might resolve lack of communication issues (addition: if staff visited these forums, and took 5 mins to post a thread to let people know globally what was happening, instead of trying to deal or not with numerous individual emails). I am a frustrated paying customer who has decided to move on, and i'll now do that now with my winning too... I think pbase has a great community within it, i truly hope smug resolves the outstanding issues before that is lost.

Good luck to everyone who remains or moves on... Glen

corrected from above:

I agree that wining doesn't help resolve system issues. It might resolve lack of communication issues. I am a frustrated paying customer who has decided to move on, and i'll now do that with my winning too... I think pbase has a great community within it, i truly hope smug resolves the outstanding issues before that is lost.

Good luck to everyone who remains or moves on... Glen

[fishit]

Like all service providers different people have different requirements from them. Search engine rankings, were low on my priority list. Stability and speed, and respect for my business were higher. Prior to the failure a few months ago I found that pbase was slow to respond, as did some of my visitors (again others my not have had this problem). I do not rely on Google to share my work with friends, family etc... but when i do send someone to my galleries i want them up and working and responding promptly. A high search ranking is of little use if the person clicks on the google search result and the image wont load, or takes too long so they move on. I thank you for looking out for my best interest in recommending "smugmug" as a backup site, but again personal preference came into play here. Besides if a system is stable and works as advertised with proper backups and a sound recovery plan, I shouldn't need a backup site. I'm glad you have an backup plan / exit strategy for your images if/when pbase should crash again. I'm not a professional photographer relying on any of these site to sell my work, if i were i would take the time to create my own stand alone site with a few accounts on these photo share sites to promote my work, advertise etc..

I enjoyed the community here at pbase, and still visit the galleries of some of my friends that i've made over the years, and they too have continued to stop by my new site, so all is good so far at my new provider. Time will tell if the service level remains as i have experienced it so far. One big plus is their customer service level, they respond quickly to support emails, and are active on their forums and facebook site. More than i can say for pbase who dont seem to understand the word "customer" or "communication".

Feel better now? To each his/her own. I sell via multi ways of marketing and have made some good money off search engines, sorry that has not worked for you.
People looking for a place or thing find my PBase site and look at it and buy pictures related to the search. In the past I provided prints off my printing service website.
I started looking for a site with print option included and found both smugmug and zenfolio as options, after reading and trying both it was clear smugmug had major advanatges.
PBase has always been for fun and work and not my main website for showing my photography, I use many sites to do that as well as some art shows and publications.

I understand PBase's short comings but I see the advantages to the PBase and the community, neither one of those things I have found else where are quite as good as here.
Having other more stable website locations just makes sense no matter what your marketing plan is with photography, if you are happy where you are at great, I am happy for you.
But to return here and to repeatedly beat a dead horse of your displeasure of the service here at PBase makes no real sense other than to allow you to vent your frustration and trash the owners.
You have made your choice you have moved your pictures and left behind notice where you have gone, why do you feel the need to harp on the current short comings of PBase after the fact makes no sense.
But if it makes you feel better, have at it while you enjoy your new home.

[imorozoff]

Pbase 6610, Statcounter 6512
I think you don't placed statcounter on each subgallety

I'm also getting huge differences in numbers. For example, on Friday, Pbase counted 1207 (Ya right!) and Statcounter counted 133 (sounds right).

Pbase help says "... go to your account settings and enter the appropriate information for the tracker you are using.
As soon as you hit the Update button on your account page, you could see the code appearing at the bottom of your galleries and image pages if you were to view the page html. "

Statcounter help says "Copy the StatCounter code (highlight + ctrl c) , Login to your PBase account, Click the "Home" button in the upper right hand corner, Click the "All Galleries" link at the top , Click the edit link for the gallery you wish to change, Paste the StatCounter code into the description box, Check the box labeled "html flag check if using html in the description.", Click the "Update Gallery" button .

Which is correct?
Do I have to add the statcounter code to all galleries?
Or do I just add the three codes to my account? (Which is all I've done as per Pbase Help instructions.)
Or do I do both?

Something seems to be amiss. Thank you.

[alangrant]

Do I have to add the statcounter code to all galleries?
Or do I just add the three codes to my account? (Which is all I've done as per Pbase Help instructions.)
Or do I do both?

Just add the three codes to your account. PBase should then automatically add the required code to all of your gallery and image pages. If you want to check, go to any of your images and "view source" in the browser; if it's working, very close to the bottom of the page you should see "start of Statcounter code".

The passage you quoted about add to all sub-galleries is outdated - it used to be necessary before PBase provided specific support for Statcounter.

[imorozoff]

go to any of your images and "view source" in the browser; if it's working, very close to the bottom of the page you should see "start of Statcounter code".

Thanks Alan, it seems to be working then.
But still gotta laugh at the difference in numbers then between Pbase (1207) and Statcounter (133).
Glad someone thinks I'm popular.