PBase Statistics page returns

[dgbimages]

Lets have the truth as to what is happening with the stats. As it stands at present its a complete waste of time. Are they still working on the problems or has it been forgotten ?

[jaapblom]

PBase Hitcounts:
It will be back as soon as we can integrate it with the new stats system in a way that is fast and efficient.

The facts:
november 30: no update
november 31: no update
now: one update per day (or less)

Please no worry about fast or efficient.
Please show us reliable figures including hitcounts.
Or: Is reliabity the problem??

Oh, it's so nice to guess!!

[hmetal]

I posted this in another thread but now I'm incensed. So...

Additionally, why not SHOW US the vote count for our each of our images instead of us sitting here and wondering what our vote status is, if we're not at the top of the list or BLOCKED from the vote page because of our mature content?

I never could understand why, as paying members, we (myself and others who shoot glamour, artistic nudes and other things, not just cute fluffy bunnies and family pets) are blocked from public pages like the recent gallery and popular photos. My images have been blocked from being seen in those locations since a VERY SMALL subset of PBase members objected to my content.

This kind of nonsense doesn't happen at Flickr or Zenfolio.

And before some fanboy comes along and says, "then go get space on those sites," I already have. I just so happen to exhibit my images in many places. PBase USED TO BE the best. But lately, with the problems, lack of communication, restriction of features based on censorship, PBase just isn't up to par anymore.

I just bought recently another $60 worth of PBase credits to support what I HOPE the site will become. But, after these credits run out, if my needs are not met, I won't bother buying more.

So.. MY QUESTIONS:

1. When will stats be fixed?
2. Where is the "mature content filtering system" that was promised OVER 2 YEARS ago?
3. When will I, as a paying member, get access to ALL the features of PBase just like everyone else and end this censorship garbage? The current system is QUITE Draconian. None of my images are appearing appearing in popular photos nor the PAD or RECENT galleries because of ONE PHOTO I posted in November 2006! YES, NOVEMBER ** 3 YEARS AGO ** Yet on Flickr, my images, many of them far more adult oriented than what I've uploaded to PBase continue to gain in statistics and are available PUBLICALLY to members who turn off the content filter.

Can we get answers WITH resolutions and not just some nonsense excuse that the admins will hope quiet the masses for another few months?

[tim32225]

I posted this in another thread but now I'm incensed. So...

I never could understand why, as paying members, we (myself and others who shoot glamour, artistic nudes and other things, not just cute fluffy bunnies and family pets) are blocked from public pages like the recent gallery and popular photos. My images have been blocked from being seen in those locations since a VERY SMALL subset of PBase members objected to my content.

This kind of nonsense doesn't happen at Flickr or Zenfolio.

And before some fanboy comes along and says, "then go get space on those sites," I already have. I just so happen to exhibit my images in many places. PBase USED TO BE the best. But lately, with the problems, lack of communication, restriction of features based on censorship, PBase just isn't up to par anymore.


When will I, as a paying member, get access to ALL the features of PBase just like everyone else and end this censorship garbage? The current system is QUITE Draconian. None of my images are appearing appearing in popular photos nor the PAD or RECENT galleries because of ONE PHOTO I posted in November 2006! YES, NOVEMBER ** 3 YEARS AGO ** Yet on Flickr, my images, many of them far more adult oriented than what I've uploaded to PBase continue to gain in statistics and are available PUBLICALLY to members who turn off the content filter.

If this were a free, public site, then maybe you could call it sensorship. But since it's a business that the owner created using his own capital, I suppose he can make any rules he deems appropriate.

The business owner apparently chooses to keep pbase a family friendly site, and I for one applaud him for that. If you don't agree with it - no problem. But you have no right to demand that anything be changed.

[hmetal]

If this were a free, public site, then maybe you could call it sensorship. But since it's a business that the owner created using his own capital, I suppose he can make any rules he deems appropriate.

The business owner apparently chooses to keep pbase a family friendly site, and I for one applaud him for that. If you don't agree with it - no problem. But you have no right to demand that anything be changed.

I didn't say I have a "right" to anything. However, I CAN stop paying and inform my friends, followers and other photographers of PBase politics. It is up to Slug, Emily and the other administrators of the site to decide whether they are going to let American puritanism dictate whether they want to get more paying users or not.

So, I can "demand" anything I want. It is up to the owners whether they provide a level and quality of service as required by their paying members ... or lose them. That's their choice, not yours.

My views are well over 8 million on PBase and I have been a paying member since 2005. I would hope that my opinion means at least as much as that of the puritanist whiners who don't like mature content.

As for "Family Friendly," if you cared to read more than the latest post or two, you would know that this has been an issue for myself and other photographers who have supported PBase since 2005. What I have been advocating since 2006 keeps family and children safe with a mature/work-safe filter (ON as default). Maybe you should practice your reading skills and educate yourself as to what I have proposed (and PBase has acknowledged publically they were going to implement) before attacking.

[tim32225]

I didn't say I have a "right" to anything. However, I CAN stop paying and inform my friends, followers and other photographers of PBase politics. It is up to Slug, Emily and the other administrators of the site to decide whether they are going to let American puritanism dictate whether they want to get more paying users or not.

Funny that you repeat almost exactly what I already said: It's up to Slug; NOT you and NOT me. And it's quite presumptuous of you to think you can get inside Slug's head and determine what 'dictates' what he decides to do or what he decides to provide.

So, I can "demand" anything I want. It is up to the owners whether they provide a level and quality of service as required by their paying members ... or lose them. That's their choice, not yours.

Seems pretty obvious that Slug has already decided what he wants, but you are apparently incapable of understanding or accepting it.

My views are well over 8 million on PBase and I have been a paying member since 2005. I would hope that my opinion means at least as much as that of the puritanist whiners who don't like mature content.

Oh, look who is being the whiner now. (it's not me). And am I supposed to be surprised (or impressed) that images of scantily clad women get you lots of hits? Any clown can post stuff like that and get the same result. It says nothing about your ability as a photographer, but maybe something about the lack of it.

As for "Family Friendly," if you cared to read more than the latest post or two, you would know that this has been an issue for myself and other photographers who have supported PBase since 2005. What I have been advocating since 2006 keeps family and children safe with a mature/work-safe filter (ON as default). Maybe you should practice your reading skills and educate yourself as to what I have proposed (and PBase has acknowledged publically they were going to implement) before attacking.

I don't need to have read your past posts in order to have a valid opinion, and I couldn't care less what you posted here in the past. I venture to guess that there are a whole lot of other things in Slug's mind (especially now) that have a higher priority than your petty demands for a smut filter. It's obvious that you are getting yourself all worked up waiting for things you've convinced yourself are going to change, so have at it if that's how you want to spend your time. I couldn't care less if you've been a paying member since 2006. I've been a paying member several years longer than you, but that's irrelevant. Stop being such a whiney cry baby.

[hmetal]

Well, Tim, I have made no presumptions. I have only asked WHEN we will get the features that PBase has promised.

Is it presumptuous for me to ask when the statistics system will be fixed? No, it is a BROKEN feature (currently).
Is it presumptuous for me to ask WHEN the previously promised content filtering system will be implemented? No, it was promised and if you search for Emily's posts, it was she herself who said it was a planned feature.
Is it presumptuous for me to ask that each photos VOTE count be displayed on the stats page? No, it seem quite a logical progression to the statistics system. Logic still prevails in this world, last I checked.

As for what Slug wants being obvious, maybe it is you making presumptions about Slug's intentions, as I have never seen Slug post anything in a public forum saying feature X is no longer promised or feature Y will not return to PBase, only "we're working on it."

Lastly, You may call me a clown all you want if it makes you feel your self-righteous opinion is that of everyone else's but, in the end, that's all it is -- YOUR opinion. Who was it that said, "opinions are like arseholes. Everyone has one and everyone thinks their doesn't stink." I for one, haven't said anything about your photography and content and will refrain from stooping to your level and making the kind of baseless comments you are making to try and turn this into a personal argument. So much for your opinion when you can't debate something without resorting to personal attacks.

Have a WONDERFUL day,

[ronsc]

From PBase TOS:

"PBASE reserves the right to remove or categorize images in any way it sees fit.
If a user uploads something of questionable legality or taste, it may be removed without notice."

Nonetheless, I think Ray still has a legitimate complaint about PBase not delivering something they said they were working on, in his case a filtering system. The PBase MO is to tell customers what they want to hear (read?) and then do nothing. I would rather they just stop with the bullshit and be honest. Just tell us you don't have a feature and have no plans to develop it, or that it is very low on the list of priorities so no one should hold their breath waiting on it.

I've said this before and I will say it again: PBase is NOT run in a professional, business-like manner. It should be obvious to everyone that it is just an amateur operation. So we can pay our money or not, the choice is ours.

I will be renewing for at least one more year because Google Analytics indicates about 1/4th my traffic to my new site on SmugMug - http://www.ronwrightphotography.com - comes from the links I have in my PBase galleries. I know at least one new customer searched for a particular type of photo and found one of my PBase galleries, then followed the link to my new web site, and then purchased an image from my SmugMug account. That one sale covers about two years of subscription fees for PBase. So the next $23 I pay here is essentially for advertising.

And to the chagrin of some, I will probably continue to complain about how PBase has gone down the toilet. That's one "feature" that my $23 buys me. Except when the forum is down

Ron
http://www.ronwrightphotography.com

[mjlamoon]

Stats, Stats.... Who really needs them, it shows that maybe x numbers of persons visited and clicked on a page...I would prefer to disable all stats and anything to do with Stats... Who knows how to disable?

I prefer the comments and voting, even if they slate my poor photos at least these are from real people.....

So thanks to everyone who stopped by and left comments, they are always appreciated

[jpeg_shooter]

My images have been blocked from being seen in those locations since a VERY SMALL subset of PBase members objected to my content.

Count me among them. As far as I'm concerned, you can take your "mature content" and walk.

[larsjohnsson]

Slug,
When will the total stats return
When will the stats for each image return
When will the stats for each gallery return

You have promised to fix it so many times in the last 2½ months

[wietsej]

I don't see the big problem to have a solution now. On little differences you can see they still working on it. On new galleries you now have a button with "view all statistics". This button isn't there on new pics. So on this moment you can only see the ten most viewed on the gallery statistic page. All information is still there. A solution must be simple, but I think the problem is that it is to slow and we have to wait until they found a faster solution. There are sites with maybe more sophisticated statistics. I posted the same pic on the same time on pbase and somewhere else. On pbase more then twothousend hits and on the other place less then hundred. There is no reason to move when there is nothing to count.

[tddunn]

That's one "feature" that my $23 buys me. Except when the forum is down

Ha! Good one.

How have you found SmugMug? I'm impressed with the business support capabilities of it and Zenfolio. I've only got Pbase, galleries are still pretty small as I'm building up my skills and portfolio, but interested in what other's experiences have been with these other other business "back-office" product offerings.

Thanks,
Tom

[gb_eh]

After the meltdown two months ago I decided that PBase no longer deserved my business, and I've taken it elsewhere (still have 6 months here). I still check back into the forums while i continue to migrate my images off this site to see if they've done anything to restore customer service, and I see nothing has changed. Customer requests for information still lacking, great way to run a business. Anyway I still have several statics tracking methods running against my account here, so i thought i'd look to see how the compare to each other. Google and StatCounter.com results are fairly close to one another, however pbase seems to be inflated. One has to ask how accurate is this new statics program everyone waited so long for? Just food for thought.

Results based on Page loads:
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Nov 27th:
- Pbase = 1048
- StatCount = 42
- Google analytics = 37

Period of Nov27 to Dec 3rd:
- Pbase = 2535
- StatCount = 387
- Google analytics = 332


http://www.glenallenphotography.com

[wietsej]

[quote="gb_eh"]After the meltdown two months ago I decided that PBase no longer deserved my business, and I've taken it elsewhere (still have 6 months here). I still check back into the forums while i continue to migrate my images off this site to see if they've done anything to restore customer service, and I see nothing has changed. Customer requests for information still lacking, great way to run a business. Anyway I still have several statics tracking methods running against my account here, so i thought i'd look to see how the compare to each other. Google and StatCounter.com results are fairly close to one another, however pbase seems to be inflated. One has to ask how accurate is this new statics program everyone waited so long for? Just food for thought.

Results based on Page loads:
========================
Nov 27th:
- Pbase = 1048
- StatCount = 42
- Google analytics = 37

Period of Nov27 to Dec 3rd:
- Pbase = 2535
- StatCount = 387
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For me 27/11 - 3/12

Pbase 6610
Statcounter 6512

I think you don't placed statcounter on each subgallety