Keep your "privates" in your private gallery!

[natalia]

Am I the only one with that opinion?


~Nat

[gpaai]

I believe a little discretion should be used at times. Nudity can be done tastefully if done right, but some take it over the edge (IMO).

This morning my daughter came over to say hi. I was clicking through the PAD thumbnails as Paula and her were standing there talking. All of a sudden there was an image of Senior Penis, big (no pun intented) as day.

It was a little embarrassing at the moment.

Honestly I think some individuals have just found another avenue in PBase to further excersize their fantasies of exhibiting themselves, more than just creating tasteful images. (again just my opinion)

Gary

[bassrock]

I quite agree that nudity should be kept separate from other PADs. I do not view this as censorship, just common sense. Just in the same way that magazines with nude images are kept on the 'top shelf' and not mixed with all the others in the newsagent. They are available to all (adults) but cannot be picked-up by accident by people just browsing. So, I would suggest that a simple categorisation scheme is used so that nudity does not get included in the PAD and the random picture sections.

I also had an embarrassing moment due to soft porn pictures appearing in the random pictures on PBase frontpage. In this case at work when I was showing my boss a few of my landscape pictures with a view to using them on a company calendar.

Please, no censorship, but a common sense way of separating nudity from those other pictures suitable for everyone to view. If not, I will have to consider PBase as suitable only for 18+ and not direct family and friends to my galleries for fear of what else they will see...

[juliano]

Quite agree.

[mysticchyna]

if it's tastefully done, imo it's fine. but i've seen some stuff that should not just be *out there*, but i got a rash of crap for making a post about that here.
but basically i agree

[jude_53]

It depends on what you consider to be "soft porn" or "tasteful nudity".. Everyone is different.
I have a sensual gallery and I consider it to be tasteful... but that's me.. and as much as I love you guys.. I wouldn't take it down because someone's boss might accidentally see.

Truthfully, it IS an art site.. art and nudity go way back.. look at Venus.. I mean, if she had had arms MAYBE she would have covered herself.. But I doubt it..

[natalia]

Honestly I think some individuals have just found another avenue in PBase to further excersize their fantasies of exhibiting themselves, more than just creating tasteful images. (again just my opinion)

Gary

exactly, my thoughts, Gary.

[natalia]

It depends on what you consider to be "soft porn" or "tasteful nudity".. Everyone is different.
I have a sensual gallery and I consider it to be tasteful... but that's me.. and as much as I love you guys.. I wouldn't take it down because someone's boss might accidentally see.

Truthfully, it IS an art site.. art and nudity go way back.. look at Venus.. I mean, if she had had arms MAYBE she would have covered herself.. But I doubt it..

Hey, Jude. How are ya? See you made a separate gallery for it, so folks could make a choice whether to view it or not. That's what the guy who was displaying his privates in PaD gallery should have done.

[jude_53]

That's true, Natalia (hi there too )... but I also do some SP's that some might consider racy (I don't).. that are my PAD's.. I do see a point about blantant show of penis.. but the galleries that are seperate sometimes come up on the main pbase home page under random galleries .. so it's not just a matter of not putting them on PAD if someone doesn't want to stumble upon them.

I dont' know the answer.. myself? I'd just as soon see a very well done nude than the tons of snapshots that fill the meta gallery..

[adalberto_tiburzi]

I don't want SP (Self Penis) on PBase.

[cjmorgan]

Am I the only one with that opinion?
~Nat

I find most naked pictures (or near naked pictures) offensive, not so
much on moral grounds, but simply because they quite naturally
call strong attention to themselves... and yet all too darn often
they're just done so poorly.

To me it's like an annoying person in a movie theater -- making
too much noise, unwittingly calling attention to themselves, but
it's just the wrong time and place to be doing so, (and you almost
want to just whack them on the side of the head for being so
disrespectful and inconsiderate).

As such, when I was doing my 2004 Photo-A-Day project, for example,
I found myself thinking a bit about how I would approach the subject of
nudity.

And in the end, for the most part, I simply decided to mostly refrain
from the subject, or at least found myself thinking about the matter
in terms of how the images I was making might go over with the
parents of some young kids who might be looking on.

And while I did have my moments of being irreverant in that gallery,
in the main I hope I mostly managed to get through the year making
images which didn't too much shock or offend the parents of young
kids.

That said, it seems to me that Jude made a good observation when
she noted that she'd just as soon see a very well done nude rather
than a ton just snapshots filling the meta gallery. I'm inclined to
agree with her.

But perhaps when we become parents ourselves, be begin to look at
these matters from a slightly different perspective -- not only considering
what we ourselves find to be acceptbable viewing, but also thinking
about the matter in terms of what we do and don't want our young
impressonable kids to easily have access to view.

And hopefully for those who put up images which make their way into
the meta-gallery, they too might keep in mind that sometimes our
young kids are looking at this stuff as well. And would you yourself
put up a particular image if it were your own young kids looking at
this stuff?

CJ
http://www.pbase.com/cjmorgan/photoaday2004&page=all

[juliano]

CJ nailed it! I suggest photosig.com for those who would like to do human body studies -- it's free, too. (the basic account)

[hmetal]

I don't agree. Wm. Bates Picture a Day of Wanda is a perfect example of tasteful glamour and semi-nude photography.

In fact, I plan to put nudes/glamour in my PAD also. (e.g. no sex and no "pink" as some call it)

Children shouldn't be made to be ashamed of seeing a nude (or semi nude) body. It is natural. I agree that some take it way too far, but I am a paid supporter of PBase and I'm not about to let those individuals make me feel ashamed of posting a tasteful nude or glamour photo here or anywhere else.

It is pornography that children should be sheltered from, until they are old enough to understand it, as taught by their parents. Children should not be ashamed when they see a classic, contemporary or artistic nude. There are perfectly innocent ways of explaining those kinds of photos to them.

The human form should be celebrated, not shunned.

[aestus]

Ditto hmetal. This is a place where I am learning a great deal about photography, and I happen to not be ashamed of my body. My nudes may not be well photographed works of art, but they are part of my learning process, and until the rules are changed I will not let shame-based "morals" dictate what I post in my paid space.

[senorcarnival]

It is pornography that children should be sheltered from, until they are old enough to understand it, as taught by their parents. Children should not be ashamed when they see a classic, contemporary or artistic nude. There are perfectly innocent ways of explaining those kinds of photos to them.

hmetal, I don't mean this in an attacking manner, but if you have kids (even if you don't), how would you explain to a child a shot of a breast covered in caramel sauce, as I saw the other day?
I think it is PBase's responsability to set the guidelines and reinforce the fact that some galleries may contain material that some will find insulting. Like include a sentence or two about it when doing a search, for instance. What I find tasteful, may be downright insulting to the guy next door, so users should not have to pay the burden of being apologetic in any way because they feel they can create art with nudity.