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18-200 nikon vr / or not.

PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2007 12:27 pm
by moelwyn
Hello there just wondering if anyone has any opinions on this,
I have been looking at the nikon 18-200 vr for approx 12months now waiting for the availability and also for the price to drop!! (in the UK)

This has been asked before but is it worth the hype?
I have a sigma 17-70 dc macro and a nikon 55-200 dx and feel I miss pictures and also loose some due to the time it sometimes takes to change from one to the other.

Looking at some reviews etc the opinions are mixed but on sites like Ken Rockwell they seem to think they are the best thing since sliced bread.

Would selling my 2 existing lenses and replacing with the vr be worth the bother ?
Thanks
ALAN.

PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2007 12:45 pm
by ewhalen
Superzooms = poop

Slow
Distortion

PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2007 7:11 pm
by gilp
with a zoom ratio of 11.11... this has to be one crappy lens.

PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2007 9:45 am
by adz929
Hmmm, I know a few people with this lens and they love it. I agree that super zooms aren't going to give you the same quality as a prime or even a medium zoom, but this lens certainly has a place in todays market. Its very versatile and gives better results than anything else with the same range. The only thing I dislike about this lens is the price. Besides, if current demand is anything to go by, it can't be that bad.

PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2007 11:00 am
by dang
You might check to see if it's reviewed here:
http://www.fredmiranda.com/reviews/

PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2007 12:08 pm
by ewhalen
adz929 wrote:Hmmm, I know a few people with this lens and they love it. I agree that super zooms aren't going to give you the same quality as a prime or even a medium zoom, but this lens certainly has a place in todays market. Its very versatile and gives better results than anything else with the same range. The only thing I dislike about this lens is the price. Besides, if current demand is anything to go by, it can't be that bad.


All it shows is that people are willing to cripple their SLRs with a junk lens because they are too lazy to change their lens.

PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2007 1:16 am
by adz929
ewhalen wrote:
All it shows is that people are willing to cripple their SLRs with a junk lens because they are too lazy to change their lens.


Its still ideal for those who want the speed and image quality of an SLR yet want the flexibility of a superzoom compact. Not everybody who buys an SLR wants to carry a bag full of lenses everywhere they go.

PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2007 9:51 am
by avrilsearle
All it shows is that people are willing to cripple their SLRs with a junk lens because they are too lazy to change their lens.[/quote]

http://www.j-roumagnac.net/index.php?x= ... ategory=27

What about these samples-they don't look too bad to me! :o
Worst thing about the lens is the creep!

PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2007 1:34 pm
by ralf
ewhalen wrote:All it shows is that people are willing to cripple their SLRs with a junk lens because they are too lazy to change their lens.

Spoken like a true snob.... So tell me, who gets the better image: me with my "junk" zoom or you who misses the opportunity while changing between ultra-quality prime lenses? Both have their place.

PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2007 6:44 pm
by ewhalen
ralf wrote:
ewhalen wrote:All it shows is that people are willing to cripple their SLRs with a junk lens because they are too lazy to change their lens.

Spoken like a true snob.... So tell me, who gets the better image: me with my "junk" zoom or you who misses the opportunity while changing between ultra-quality prime lenses? Both have their place.


I have two zooms, and three cameras....to go along with my primes....so I don't have to do much switching

Not trying to pick a fight...

PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2007 4:30 pm
by sbowers
ewhalen wrote:
ralf wrote:
ewhalen wrote:All it shows is that people are willing to cripple their SLRs with a junk lens because they are too lazy to change their lens.

Spoken like a true snob.... So tell me, who gets the better image: me with my "junk" zoom or you who misses the opportunity while changing between ultra-quality prime lenses? Both have their place.


I have two zooms, and three cameras....to go along with my primes....so I don't have to do much switching



And that's a lots of stuff to carry around or have slung about your neck! :shock:

It's been said so much it's cliche, "to each his own." If you have gobs of equipment and fancy lugging it around then that's your style. If, on the other hand, you prefer to have a superzoom on your SLR to "save from swapping lenses" that, too, is your prerogative.

Is it a fact that superzooms are crappy? Depends on who you ask and there lies the problem with subjective questions like "what's better" or "is this thing worth it" or "Nikon vs. Canon". We each have our own needs and requirements. Me personally, I don't mind carrying three lenses with my one camera. I'll change if necessary. (I worry more about dust and debris getting on my sensor.)

Goodness, it's even a question of cost. If one person can afford a mega-bucks ultra-prime 20lbs glass then, hey, go write that check. I buy the best glass I can afford to do the captures I want. (Personally, I'm in the market for a Nikkor zoom with VR...)

And for that, it's a cheap shot to call someone's equipment "junk". True, a particular lens may not be "top quality", but damn if I'm going to pay $6K for one that is. My wife would kill me. :(

Now, let's take some pictures!

Cheers,
Sean

PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2007 7:36 pm
by andrzejmakal
Hi
Not so bad, fast enough, very versatile, VR!!!. For wide angle I prefere my Sigma 10-20, I use also 50/1.8 (best optic) but I if you are non-prof, it`s really good stuff. Don't mind about creeping, it's rather common. I use it for 6 month and it does really great job. Tons of nice photos. Changing lenses is always a problem, don't tell me that many lenses, or carrying another body is "cool". Borrow one somehow, and you will see. Don't listen people, that didn't try it. Wonna some examples nonprocessed? Write me PM.
regards

take a look:

http://www.bythom.com/18200lens.htm

http://www.digitaldingus.com/forums/vie ... php?t=3033

Maki

PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2007 10:33 pm
by ewhalen
andrzejmakal wrote:Hi
Not so bad, fast enough, very versatile, VR!!!. For wide angle I prefere my Sigma 10-20, I use also 50/1.8 (best optic) but I if you are non-prof, it`s really good stuff. Don't mind about creeping, it's rather common. I use it for 6 month and it does really great job. Tons of nice photos. Changing lenses is always a problem, don't tell me that many lenses, or carrying another body is "cool". Borrow one somehow, and you will see. Don't listen people, that didn't try it. Wonna some examples nonprocessed? Write me PM.
regards

take a look:

http://www.bythom.com/18200lens.htm

http://www.digitaldingus.com/forums/vie ... php?t=3033

Maki


5.6 is not fast at all. I often find F4 too slow, with flash, indoors.

PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2007 1:41 pm
by andrzejmakal
Ok, so show me better hiperzoom with VR in such price.

Some people likes zooms, even if they are worse than the primes.

Regards

Maki

PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2007 4:55 pm
by ewhalen
andrzejmakal wrote:Ok, so show me better hiperzoom with VR in such price.

Some people likes zooms, even if they are worse than the primes.

Regards

Maki


I'd rather use two or three F2.8 zooms than 1 that goes from slow to slower.