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Could any one please help me edit this picture?

poolychick
 
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Could any one please help me edit this picture?

Post Mon Sep 10, 2007 9:33 pm


I've tried and tried to recolour the yellow parts of this camper in gold,but i keep losing all of the contours of the body work.

It's like i just paint over the yellow instead of changing it(hope this makes sense). so my picture ends up looking like a cartoon van.

this is the van as is
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and this pityfull effort is all i've managed :oops:

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I'm wanting it gold to match the awning so i can get a proper idea of it before i actually bite the bullet and respray :roll:

Any help would be gladly accepted :)

andrys
 
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Post Tue Sep 11, 2007 10:43 am


You didn't say what editing program you use.

With Adobe Photoshop CS basic (not CS2 or CS3), I made a 2nd copy of
the jpg and gave it another name, yella.tif
using yours named yellow.jpg in my folder.

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1. I selected a gold area of the awning in your yellow.jpg using magic wand.

2. Then I switched to yella.tif copy.
3. I selected the truck areas that were yellow, using
- a. magic wand to select a main yellow area
- b. menu/select/similaR to catch all similar colors

4. Then I used menu/adjustments/color-match
- and chose SOURCE: yellow.jpg
- looked at the changes suddenly made (goldish truck)
- used FADE slider to get gold to match the gold better, more or less

5. While selection was still active, I added +1 contrast for
image/adjust/brightness contrast. Your picture was using 0 contrast
in the changed area.

6. Some flowers that were yellow got changed to gold, so I used
History brush to brush those back to what they were.

(Actually, after selecting truck yellow areas, you could have
just desaturated it if going from yellow to gold.)

This won't be what you want exactly, but it's the only way I currently
know how to do replace colors.

I link to gobs of free online tutorials at http://www.pbase.com/andrys/reflect

Personally, I like your yellow color.

[Edited to say it was Select/SimilaR (colors) rather than color range.]
Last edited by andrys on Mon Nov 12, 2007 9:29 am, edited 1 time in total.

paulsilkphotography
 
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Post Wed Sep 12, 2007 2:59 pm


If your using something like Elements 5 or one of the later Photoshops then the easiest way is to select the replacement colour tool then select the colour you want and simply paint over the areas you want to change :)

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Keep on snapping and catch the moment if you can.
Paul

http://www.pbase.com/paulsilkphotography

andrys
 
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Post Wed Sep 12, 2007 6:59 pm


paulsilkphotography wrote:If your using something like Elements 5 or one of the later Photoshops then the easiest way is to select the replacement colour tool then select the colour you want and simply paint over the areas you want to change :)


Paul, I tried that feature but it's much harder for me, as the brush
can easily go outside the (often curved) boundaries and, in a way, the
color results will be more even rather than graded according to contours.

The Select/SimilaR will select all color pixels that appear in that range.
Of course this won't work well if there's a lot of that color in other areas of
the picture but then the history brush can undo those.

[Edited to say it was Select/SimilaR (colors) rather than color range.]
Last edited by andrys on Thu Nov 01, 2007 6:06 am, edited 1 time in total.

robinlew
 
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Post Wed Sep 12, 2007 9:57 pm


I agree with Paul, the replacement tool in Photoshop CS, normally used for correcting red eye, is so easy to use for this.

Andrys, I used my pen tool instead of a mouse, easier to manage with this kind of art work. You can control the size of your replacement tool brush (or any brush) by using the bracket keys [ & ]

[ = smaller and ] = larger.

Mistakes can be corrected by using the history brush tool.

The replacement tool does not affect any other areas in the photo and seems to leave the shading and contrast intact. It took only seconds to change the colors.

Here is my sample using replacement tool, notice that I also "repainted" the red vent on the top of the van.

Robin

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andrys
 
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Post Thu Sep 13, 2007 8:39 am


robinlew wrote:I agree with Paul, the replacement tool in Photoshop CS, normally used for correcting red eye, is so easy to use for this.

Andrys, I used my pen tool instead of a mouse, easier to manage with this kind of art work.


Some of us call it "the dreaded pen tool" (that was a class joke).

I have a very hard time with it and it's a lot more arduous for
me to control the path. You did a superb job though.

Mistakes can be corrected by using the history brush tool.


Added precise work (for me) to observe lines with brushing.

Select/similaR gets them all, with no brushing or pen tool.

But you do have to have a source and destination, which takes
a few seconds, yes! :-)

The replacement tool does not affect any other areas in the photo and seems to leave the shading and contrast intact. It took only seconds to change the colors.


I think you're very good with the pen tool. Note that the brush
example (orange and gold) showed the paint extending beyond
the door frame and then one would need to precisely history-brush
that back.

[Edited to say it was Select/SimilaR (colors) rather than color range.]
Last edited by andrys on Thu Nov 01, 2007 6:06 am, edited 1 time in total.

mclew
 
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Post Thu Sep 13, 2007 7:45 pm


Hi, I've been following this thread and now both Robin and I are lured into the world of color replacement with Photoshop. There is one more way, Image, Adjustments, Replace Color... Photoshop never has just ONE way to do it... the trick is to choose the one that works best for the situation. Replace Color is pretty neat too and even easier for this van job than the Color Replacement Tool.

Andrys writes "dreaded pen tool"
BTW, the "dreaded pen tool"???? What is dreaded about a pen tool? Most of us born before the "damn mouse" became the new input tool have much more dexterity with a pencil or pen than with a rolling ball pointer 8-) Of course I'd have to see how you have trouble with it to suggest any helpful hints.

Now I'm going to try to edit out the glaring white car that parked in the middle of my photo of the Superga church. It always seemed impossible before and I also got cartoonish re-paint jobs that made glaring white a better choice.

Margaret

andrys
 
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Post Fri Sep 14, 2007 6:58 am


mclew wrote:Hi, I've been following this thread and now both Robin and I are lured into the world of color replacement with Photoshop. There is one more way, Image, Adjustments, Replace Color... Photoshop never has just ONE way to do it... the trick is to choose the one that works best for the situation. Replace Color is pretty neat too and even easier for this van job than the Color Replacement Tool.


Sure, and I first started with the color replacement tool but am very bad
with it for this particular application in which we were to match color of
the truck to awning.

Since the name of the feature I used is "match color" I don't see what
the prob is. That i detailed the steps (selecting original source and target
area) may have made it seem more complex. But I try to do step by step.

So I then used "match color" which IS incredibly easy to use. I don't
have to use brushes or tools. I love how, with unwanted reflections
fuzzying up the clarity of one image I can ask it to 'match color' to what
I want from another area or area of another picture.

For selecting a color area, I tend to like Select/similaR (colors) because I
can click once with magic wand and then the Select/similaR selects all
other instances of that particular color. I didn't take time to refine the
truck's matched color results though, where a whiter area was missed, as
we were just asked to show a way to match the awning color.

It's one way. Robin used another, and you've named yet another.

mclew wrote:Andrys writes "dreaded pen tool"
BTW, the "dreaded pen tool"???? What is dreaded about a pen tool?


That was our teacher's joke. It became the name of one of the
classes because so many of the Photoshop students don't like using it.
Just because it's natural to you doesn't mean it is to others.

A lot of people in the 'Advanced' Photoshop class we were taking (twice)
have trouble with it in making paths (selections) well with it. An
engineering student would have no trouble, an art major probably even
less.

I have trouble using the magnetic tool correctly too, even though
I really like that one. So, if I can avoid small hand-movements, I do.

[Edited to say it was Select/SimilaR (colors) rather than color range.]
Last edited by andrys on Thu Nov 01, 2007 6:07 am, edited 1 time in total.

paulsilkphotography
 
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Post Fri Sep 14, 2007 4:39 pm


andrys wrote:
paulsilkphotography wrote:If your using something like Elements 5 or one of the later Photoshops then the easiest way is to select the replacement colour tool then select the colour you want and simply paint over the areas you want to change :)


Paul, I tried that feature but it's much harder for me, as the brush
can easily go outside the (often curved) boundaries and, in a way, the
color results will be more even rather than graded according to contours.

The Select/Color range will select all color pixels that appear in that range.
Of course this won't work well if there's a lot of that color in other areas of
the picture but then the history brush can undo those.


To each his own, and has someone that used to handcolour B&W prints with a paint or airbrush I find it a lot easier when using a graphics tablet :)

The problem with using a selection tool such as the pen tool or any other is that (especially with photos other than cars) differing amounts of feathering are needed in different parts of the image and just filling a selection with a set rad of feathering can look a little false when filled in with colour, whereas with a brush you can constantly alter the feathing and flow of colour as the edge warrants. :)

For anyone else following this thread another method is to use a Hue & Saturation adjustment layer to alter the colour then fill the mask with black and use white to paint back the altered colour, the beauty of this method is if you make a mistake you can change to black to rectify it.

A quick and dirty example is here where all the coats were blue.

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Keep on snapping and catch the moment if you can.
Paul

http://www.pbase.com/paulsilkphotography

andrys
 
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Post Fri Sep 14, 2007 9:47 pm


paulsilkphotography wrote:To each his own, and has someone that used to handcolour B&W prints with a paint or airbrush I find it a lot easier when using a graphics tablet :)


I imagine it would be!

For anyone else following this thread another method is to use a Hue & Saturation adjustment layer to alter the colour


Yes, I mentioned at the end of mine that in yellow-to-light gold,
the saturation tool would have been the easiest...

then fill the mask with black and use white to paint back the altered colour, the beauty of this method is if you make a mistake you can change to black to rectify it.


Yes. Also, my favorite editing thing is that if you get the history box and
go back to just before your changes (no matter how they're done) you
can click on the -Left- of the Just-Before state, and history-brush-in any
areas you like, to use how it was before anywhere you want without any
masking or selecting. We just have to make sure that our current state
is active while we're using the history-brush on parts we want brought
back as they were...

At any rate 3 of us have given poolychick 3 different ways this can be
done, so I hope that helps.


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