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New Laptop with Vista or a Mac Powerbook???

Should I get a HP with Vista and 17 inch viewable laptop or a Mac Powerbook with 15'4" laptop

Poll ended at Thu Mar 22, 2007 12:58 am

Mac
7
70%
HP with Vista
3
30%

Total votes : 10


jdepould
 
Posts: 540


Post Sat Apr 28, 2007 3:49 pm


andrys wrote: I still prefer the pc by quite a bit. I don't like having everything done
for me. And I really like a lot of utilities that aren't available for the Mac.
I used the Macs as a regular user but also did some development
processes on it with hybrid cds to be distributed.


And at the university where I worked the last 6 years (UC) they're now
moving depts from Macs to PCs due to the software that's more
commonly used and custom programs that are made for pc's first
while making Mac users wait.


like what?
Nikon D300, D200
Nikkor 50mm f/1.8D, 55mm f/1.4 micro, 18-70mm f/3.5-4.5G DX, 80-200 f/2.8D
Apple PowerBook G4, MacBook Pro
Adobe Lightroom, Photoshop CS3

andrys
 
Posts: 2701


Post Sat Apr 28, 2007 11:30 pm


jdepould wrote:
andrys wrote:
And at the university where I worked the last 6 years (UC) they're now
moving depts from Macs to PCs due to the software that's more
commonly used and custom programs that are made for pc's first
while making Mac users wait.


like what?


Business apps, for the most part, where most recent updates are first
done for Windows and then later for Macs.

There was a lot of interest in Google Earth and it took some time before
it was finally available for Macs.
But this is generally the case, because Macs have something like 5-7%
of the market in regular businesses and the work on Mac versions is done
later as a marketing decision. In the meantime, things aren't easily
sync-able when dealing with constant shifting of staffing and training time
needed. In a university promotions are encouraged (usually out of dept)
and you have a situation where people have to be ready to take over
without much training time. And there is a focus on hiring student
help, on a temporary, short-term basis. Lots of shifting there.

My dept had only Macs (I worked there for 5 yrs until recently) and we
looked for people with Mac experience but they are harder to find. While
Mac users will find it simple to learn -- to be a Windows user quickly
functioning well on a different OS is quite frustrating for some.

We also produced software (astronomy educational programs) and when
OSX came, the money available for a Mac version of what we did was just
not there. So that's been hanging for a couple of years.

The University has system-wide customized programs for its day-to-day
functioning, customized for the University. In order for Macs to run it,
one has to go through another client app that acts as an interface, but
it's buggy and when new functions are made, the Macs have to wait to
be able to use them. So, slowly, depts have been shifting to pc's.
It's costly to 'support' both as far as troubleshooting and helpline time.

In digital photography and Dreamweaver classes I'm taking (one at
Berkeley City College, with brand new hardware and software) --
Mac-oriented, surveys showed that most classroom students are on
Windows at home, and then they need to show how both work, for any
app that the student might use at home or in the office.

So, now they're running Windows as default on bootup. The upside
to the Mac is that the current Macs can run Windows (though most
Mac users would not consider that a plus :-) )

andrys
 
Posts: 2701


Post Sun Apr 29, 2007 11:35 pm


jdepould wrote:
andrys wrote: I still prefer the pc by quite a bit. I don't like having everything done
for me. And I really like a lot of utilities that aren't available for the Mac.
I used the Macs as a regular user but also did some development
processes on it with hybrid cds to be distributed. ...


like what?


My first response was to the situation of the university with pcs
and macs.

This one is re my first paragraph. Ran across another one today.
I am really amazed at so many utilities I run all the time that I
miss when I'm on a Mac (but they wouldn't be so important to others).

I just wrote about one in a thread about fixing chromatic aberration
without spending for full Photoshop etc.

PTLens is another one important to me and is only $15 while
instant-correcting distortions etc, via camera profiles and manual
fine-tuning.
http://epaperpress.com/ptlens/example.html

All doable in full photoshop which I have but it's instantaneous
with PTLens, with your camera profile, and you also can control
the results in an amazingly simple way.
Info here: http://epaperpress.com/ptlens/index.html

The maker recommends that Mac users try Lensfix and gives
a link for that.

jdepould
 
Posts: 540


Post Mon Apr 30, 2007 2:32 am


You've named one program.
Nikon D300, D200
Nikkor 50mm f/1.8D, 55mm f/1.4 micro, 18-70mm f/3.5-4.5G DX, 80-200 f/2.8D
Apple PowerBook G4, MacBook Pro
Adobe Lightroom, Photoshop CS3

andrys
 
Posts: 2701


Post Mon Apr 30, 2007 9:43 am


jdepould wrote:You've named one program.


I'm not here to do a 'contest' with you. I use both and see
advantages and disadvantages of both.

This was just one program I ran across today and there
are lots of them.

Not going through so many programs to name programs
for you since Windows and Macs have very different utillities
built for them.

That's the prob with mac and windows talks. No real
conversation. I write you long responses and you do the
usual confrontational sentnece.

marxz
 
Posts: 282


Post Wed Jun 13, 2007 12:25 pm


My two cents here - I've worked in IT since <cough> 1984 <cough>, I've owned and used macs from system 6 onwards, I've owned and used PC's from pre Windows (DOS) days.

My overall experience is that apart from a short period around the Mac System 9 (where Win 98 was relatively much more stable) and early OSX (where Windows 2000 was more functional) I would _rather_ use a mac.

These days with macs running on Intel processors it's pretty much a no brainer for me... when I decide to upgrade my G5 I'll be getting a MacBook Pro 17" and run Mac OS... AND Vista (probably virtualised under Parallels rather than needing to reboot with boot camp)

Mac for photoshop/lightroom, everyday office and internet stuff and just use Vista/Parallels for Windows only software such as tax/accounting software, Access database development and the cr@ppy in house developed MS .net apps that work makes us use.


A word of advice, my experience both professionally and personally is - get the machine maxed out memory wise as soon as you buy it, even if that means scrimping on hard disk size.
Memory is dirt cheap at the moment and it will allow you to squeeze another year or more out of it's useful life (and increase its resale value) but computer memory prices are pretty volatile (as opposed to storage memory like flash drives/CF) so go down and then go backup based on short term demand/production. Hard disk prices just keep dropping even as capacity goes through the roof, so at a later date you can upgrade the internal hard drive (easy on a MacBook and some Windows laptops and a real pain on others) and/or use external USB/Firewire drives.

windhorse
 
Posts: 10


Post Sun Jul 22, 2007 4:29 pm


I took the plunge over 7.5 years ago from PC to Mac. Best thing I ever did.
I have just got a Mac pro. You plug it in & away you go. Macs cost more to buy but are cheaper in the long run as you don't have down time for maintenance & upgrades all the time. I still use my old 7.5 year old Mac as well. Never had any problems with it.
Make life easier for yourself - Get a Mac!!

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