I Hope I Don't Catch *too much* Crap For This....

[mysticchyna]

I understand the basic concept that started this discussion. I have seen someone who says on their PaD gallery the photo should be taken that day, unprocessed, and posted that day. They are on their 2nd year and have posted something taken that day. My problem is with the definition of a photo....
Demmy

We are waiting to hear from Slug as to maybe some guidelines or something. I totally understand that we all have lives of some sort, get busy, etc...even I skip a day if I don't have it, or I have posted an older photo. My problem isn't with processed photos once in a while...I'm talking about those who blatenly are trying to just get exposure on albums that are NOT PAD albums, or those that CONSTANLY post one, two year old photos.

[cjmorgan]

I don't want to seem pessimistic, but while this may seem like a solution, I believe it will give those seeking exposure for their works yet another venue, without leaving the other.
Gary

Hopefully that one's easy enough to solve: just have the setup
such that folks can either show on one gallery or the other.

That way if someone puts non-PAD images on the PAD META-GALLERY,
I, for one, would have no qualms barking at such a person to point out
there's the SHOWCASE META-GALLERY for those images.

CJ

[cjmorgan]

I understand the basic concept that started this discussion. I have seen someone who says on their PaD gallery the photo should be taken that day, unprocessed, and posted that day.

I imagine the first folks to do a Photo-A-Day just did it because
they thought it might be a "cool" idea -- no heavy duty rules, just
cool to make a photo a day.

And then others joined in (or also thought it might be a "cool" idea
that they'd like to try as well). And so the idea caught on, and with
more people involved, more rules and more do's and don'ts seemingly
start floating in the air.

And in part, that's fine -- within reason and hopefully with a bit
of common sense to the reasoning, use your own criteria for
your PAD.

But the spirit of it is about more than just rigid adherence to
rules.

For my own part, I generally try to post an image every day,
at least so far as having X number of images up for the
X number of days I've been at the project.

But the fact is I don't shoot everyday. My Muse doesn't work
that way. Or my schedule doesn't work that way. Or somedays
I well rested to shoot and other days I'm just to damn tired
to see the extraordinary within the ordinary of life around me.


I could I could shot a shot each and every day. But from where I sit,
the spirit of the project is more about learning and experiment and
having fun and try to put up something which is more meaningful
than just a series of hastily made snapshots.

And so it is that, for example, my Tuesday's shot might have been
shot on Tuesday, but it also might haven shot the previous Saturday
-- more important to me that I try to put up a relatively more
meaningful image shot a few days ago rather than just a hastily
made snapshot literally taken within the last 24 hours.

The latter maybe technically correct, but the former seems to me
more in line with what I imagine to be the spirit a PAD project --
to have fun, to experiment, to learn, and to put up something which
is more carefully crafted than just the most hastily made snapshot
banged out two minutes before midnight.

Because any time we find ourselves forgetting why we do what
we do, that's the time to start questioning our own self-imposed
rules and to see if how we're spending our time actually makes
any sense.

Or so it seems to me.

CJ
http://www.pbase.com/cjmorgan/photoaday2004

[gpaai]

I truly believe everyone posting messages on this thread sincerely would like to see some sort of reform when it comes to PAD. With this being said, I would like to show everyone what I have witnessed this morning through monitoring the PAD META GALLERY.

If you go to: http://www.pbase.com/image/30736797 you will see a beauty contest of some sort. I watched this pbase user change at least 5 images this morning. It seemed the image would change every time the previous one was pushed from the first page.

The bottom line is, if you get too many individuals doing this on a regular basis, those of us that only post one image a day end up getting pushed to the back of the META GALLERY, not receiving the exposure we would if this practice didn't take place.

Gary

[dazedgonebye]

That's allowed Gary because it's (mostly) pretty girls....

[gpaai]

That's allowed Gary because it's (mostly) pretty girls....

Then I guess rock bands get equal time because this member has been posting them all day long...

http://www.pbase.com/image/30746077

[simonkirk]

I started back in late october last year when i saw a few PAD's in the gallery pages and i thought it would be a fun thing to do, trying to introduce people to the things i see and do it was fun and still is i had to stop for a month thanks to work and i cleared the original gallery to make space for some new work at the time but i am still here and doing well i even join in with the themes when i can they are fun and challenging, i dont have a massive problem with all the non PAD people who are here or even those who are here for the coverage, if there is a photo i like then i will look at it bands or lovely young women!! but for the most part i am familiar with who is doing the project and i will check their work out if i can.
I suppose this must be how many of the people felt when the PAD thang really took off and we flooded the popular galleries which led to much bad blood and some really hurtfull crap from some members/non members.
Personaly i think a Showcase PAD might be a good idea if it does not we have to remember that a portion of the forums is set aside for show and tell where people can highlight their new gallery with ample threads to show off your work!

lets all remember this is about having fun not about teritorial rights on pbase.

[mysticchyna]

....I think a Showcase PAD might be a good idea if it does not we have to remember that a portion of the forums is set aside for show and tell where people can highlight their new gallery with ample threads to show off your work!

lets all remember this is about having fun not about teritorial rights on pbase.

Yeah...I agree with some sort of showcase or sub gallery...along with a clear explanation of WHAT PAD is on PBASE. Because I know for a fact that there are other sites that do PAD and they are very rigid, have standards and this type of posting several photos in a day or whatever would not be allowed. I mean if Slug comes back and says, yeah...do and post whatever and whenever you want...he should say that somewhere on the site...at least folks like myself will shut up about it. --Lisa Feuer/mysticchyna

[corvidae]

PROPOSAL: 2 META-GALLERIES

PAD META-GALLERY - for those folks who are particiating in their own PAD project

SHOWCASE META-GALLERY - a place for those who want to to showcase and
call attention to their work... one image per photographer at any given time; each person's
image can be changed up as often as the individual likes

C J

Yes, a "Showcase" gallery.

Something, anyway. This crossed my mind when I first started reading the posts here and was glad to see it raised as a suggestion. Certainly it would be nice for everyone to have an outlet for photos they want to showcase; there is obviously some sort of need.

I am not sure where the confusion lies in <b>Picture. A. Day.</b>(?) Having said that, I don't think it has to mean a picture <u>EVERY</u> day; after all, if you don't take a picture and post it, you're not intruding by your absence, are you? Things taken recently and Photoshopped on that day -- it doesn't really bother me, but certainly could be an issue for discussion.

[cjmorgan]

some of these PAD Nazi's need to get a life. I cant
believe the fuss being made over something so simple. Why not just
scroll past the stuff you dont like?

Because frankly, I already spend way too much time just wading
through the clutter of my own images each day, let alone having
to wade through the clutter of other people's images on a
PAD Meta-Gallery which is junked up with a whole bunch of
non-PAD stuff.

I go to the PAD gallery to see what other PAD project photographers
are doing.

And if someone isn't doing a PAD project, then let him of her otherwise
showcase their work in the Showcase Meta-Gallery.

C J

[mysticchyna]

::nod:: yes, I agree with CJ.

[5points]

Too many Rules!
To me the main reason for a photoblog (PAD) is to post images on a regular basis and establish a visual dialog of sorts.
To me it is all about communication and not about 365 pics a year.

[cjmorgan]

Too many Rules!
To me the main reason for a photoblog (PAD) is to post images on a regular basis and establish a visual dialog of sorts.
To me it is all about communication and not about 365 pics a year.

Well, actually, while there seems to be some latitude about what
Photo-A-Day is or is not, the essence of the project really is about
making 365 pics in a year. Overlook that, and you sort of overlook
why we do what we do in the first place.
C J

[5points]

....the essence of the project really is about
making 365 pics in a year. Overlook that, and you sort of overlook
why we do what we do in the first place.

Looks like I need to withdraw from PAD, did not realize that 365 pics a year is the basic criteria, assumed that it was like any other photoblog out there.

[cjmorgan]

Looks like I need to withdraw from PAD, did not realize
that 365 pics a year is the basic criteria...

At the risk of pointing out the obvious, 365 pictures a year works
out to be a photo a day.... which, by some strange coincidence,
also happens to be the name of the project.